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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.09.04 02:32:00 -
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This is the same idiot that says he 'will run to 0.0 and hide with his friends' if someone declares war on him for doing this.
Another shining example of Oveur unable to cope with running a MMOG. How is allowing this equal to 'harsh EvE', its more 'No Risk EvE'.
All he needs to do is grow a pair and say 'dont do this anymore', coding it out is not even necessary.
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Infinity Ziona
Feet Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.04 02:43:00 -
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'Clever' is an interesting word for the exploit.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.09.04 03:10:00 -
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I prefer to use the English Langauge definition for the word exploit rather then a forum created definition based on the dictionary of Maya.
AFAIK the ganging of a kind person, who wants to help you accomplish something, on the pretense that you cannot accomplish it yourself and then inviting a warring corp into the gang without warning, and then ganking that helpful person, was not the purpose of the gang mechanic.
Since it was not the intention of the gang mechanic and in fact is the anti-purpose in a practical sense, then by the English Language definition, it does indeed qualify as an exploit.
Albeit, for some strange reason only Oveur knows, its not a punishable one.
Thank you. Move Along.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.09.04 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Infinity Ziona I prefer to use the English Langauge definition for the word exploit rather then a forum created definition based on the dictionary of Maya.
By the same logic, jetcan mining and gate sniping are also "exploits."
They are but they entail risk and dont cause serious loss or make EvE look like ****e. Lofty's exploit does not have any risk, its RL nasty since the guy is thinking hes helping another player, makes the developers and EvE look like ****heads since they allow it and requires zero skill.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.09.04 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: DukDodgerz
Originally by: Toki Asturias
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
NOT AN EXPLOIT: Inviting players to a gang with warring pilots to kill them.
EXPLOIT: Setting the invitation order in a way that bypasses the intended "warring pilots in your gang" message.
I agree with this. The warning is there to tell people information that is necasarry that could not be gathered otherwise. Circumventing this warning does not seem to be what was intended. Then again who's dumb enough to join some random person's gang with a faction ship? This does have the negative side effect of making it much harder to trust a real noob who is having difficulties. This can make Eve very hard to get into for new players. New players are necasarry for the continuing survival of any online game.
solution 1: accept the invite, have your corpmates ready inside a bubble, make excuse that you cant seem to warp to them, and have them warp too you....kill the noob as soon as he shows regardless of who else shows up...
solution 2: kill all noobs on site with suicidal gank squads.
solution 3: BLOB the noob stations with Apocs full of smartbombs, killing anything using one Apoc at a time...(concord loot cans?)
solution 4: distribute clue; trust nobody in a game like Eve...until they have earned it...and then trust them less...
          
Obviously from the book - 'Impractical Ways for Psychic People to Deal with Exploiters' By Sum Darmarse.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.09.04 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 Ok, I admit that I may have found a >widdle tiny bit< of an exploit. Yes, CCP can change it if they wish, and I will cease use of it if it is declared an exploit. I play eve for fun, not to get banned.
You find it fun, as you have admitted above, to use an widdle tiny bit of an exploit to kill people who took the time out of their game play to try to help someone new to the game?
What exactly do you find 'fun' about that Lofty? That a bunch of pre-pubes think your cool for being a *****?
Technically since you have admitted here in this thread that you yourself consider this an exploit you should be banned or at least warned.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.09.04 15:43:00 -
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Its all very well to say 'dont group with other players' or 'make sure you invite him' or 'drop the gang before you get to the location' but:
What you are forgetting is wars dont happen immediately and warring corps dont cooperate, they fight each other. If you get a gang invite and its says 'if the corporation becomes involved in a war blah blah' then you expect, and rightly so, that the war would be executed as a normal war is.
Not, that the guy in the gang is going to scramble you for the opposition, or that hes going to warp you directly to a preassigned location for the 'enemy' to gank you.
All these 'intellectuals' given out advice about how you can avoid Lofties pathetic little scam, had you never heard of it, would not be taking their own advice and 'dropping the gang during warp' etc.
Its a ****ty little scam by a ****ty little player who cant succeed in a game without cotton wool wrapped around his little e-peen and his groupies crying 'loftie, yoru teh man111 LOLACOPTER' and shouldnt be given any more legitimacy then that by supplying the moron with excuses and blaming the victim.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.09.04 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zhaine Hehe. Awesome. lofty 4tw! Darwinian Gaming 4tw! Eve 4tw! What more can I say except that I really love reading ranting, angry complaint posts like these. Really. It just makes me feel so. . . superior 
I remember. . . this guy (lofty) was the first guy to ever blow my ship up in PvP (in some low sec system). Did I complain? Did I rant? No I had a conversation with him on local, saying how fun it was. And don't say I knew the risks and he (the OP) didn't if you accept gang invites from random noobs. lol.
/me Hands Zhaine some Pom Poms.
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Infinity Ziona
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.09.07 13:16:00 -
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I think the moment your aggressed you cannot leave the gang to avoid the aggression, if you do it still continues for 15 minutes.
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